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I didn't mean for it to take itself so seriously - couldn't find a song to use, so I picked one from an album I hadn't listened to by a band I had listened to, based solely on it's length. Already spent a lot of time on the edit before I realized it went big and distorted. But never mind: Mr. Clarkson - if you watch this and feel offended that I ignored your advice - I haven't ignored it, I'm just too damn scared of it

God damn was some of that tech. Wish I had that sort of control/balance. Also wish I had as nice a looking bike as you

Gapping Hell! Massive. You are, without a doubt, awesome. Nice to see there's still some mod riders about with a nice style - I thought they'd all switched to 24/stock Bunnyhop manual, kickered hook and sidehop-to-manual-thing particularly stood out. Wicked. Would love to see more, if you have the time/desire

Sorry - should've said - I'm talking frame-only-prices. That's assuming you'll be able to buy the frame by itself.

After seeing this thread, I had to wonder... They're obviously going to be horrifically expensive, but just how expensive? Will they be cheaper than the rivaling Koxx Sky 2 frame (£729.00 on Tarty), or more expensive? Place your bets! Edit: Frame-only-prices, that is.

I thank you for bringing this to my attention. However - you left off one important detail, so I went to their site to find out: "6,795 kilograms !" How can they put a bash-plate on this? I don't know all that much about materials, but carbon tubing is NOT good at knocks to the side of it, from what I understand. Land on that plate, all the force goes through the BB-yoke, and (more importantly) that one bolt on the downtube. Surely that'll completely ruin it with one semi-forceful landing? Seems like an unnecessary problem-maker to me. Can't wait to see it in action though! Intrigued on the pricing, too. In fact...

The more of a compromise between two styles of riding your bike is, the harder it is to reach your full potential in either area. It'd be more fun, and would let you do a bit of everything very well, but it would be harder to sidehop than a TGS/Comp machine, but would also be harder to spin than a pure street bike. It would also be easier to sidehop than a street bike, and easier to spin than a TGS/Comp bike. At a lower level of riding, it has the advantages of both types of bike, but if you progress and want to get bigger/better, you'll get the hindrances of both types of bike. If you ride for fun rather than for progressing - it'd be great. But if you ride with the main intent of improving skills, and having fun whilst doing so, it'd not be ideal. (This does not seem to be true if you're an absolute monster - which both Rowan and Ali above deffinately are ) (This is also in MY experience. Perhaps it's different for others. I hope the way I've written it all makes sense...)

Ze gold von is ze bescht.

I want to go to Preston. I'd all but forgotten about the place, but those walls look so damn riding-friendly! Is that the same wall as was in a recent Damon video? Looks just as big, if not. Can't wait for the video!

I mean that when I set it so It sits nicely on the middle ring, it won't shift down to the inner, and if I set it nice on the inner, it won't shift up to the middle - even having written the outer off all together.

And there's no evidence to say that getting a 22" bike will actually make them better. Could just be the new-bike-placebo effect on the others. Otherwise - by your logic, all the people who went from Fourplays to Hexes should be ripping the f**k out of rides, which hasn't happened so far. Don't take people's word for it. It's just hype, until there's some proof. "Oh yeah, I could have made that gap where I stacked it if I was on a 22"." Of course, it being several years later and his skill having improved in general has f**k all to do with it.

Topic changed. More problems

Says who - other than the company selling them - and according to what logic? Not saying it's wrong, but I definitely require an explanation before I agree with that statement.

I can testify the quality of his workmanship. In not quite four years of knowing him, he has: Welded my cracked Onza Zoot frame, which lasted another 8 months of riding and is still fine (if a little dusty from being in the loft ). Welded my MASSIVELY cracked Onza Comp frame - 'bout the same as the one that started this thread but at the bash mount - ridden for another 3 months and still fine (also dusty). Welded my cracked Neon B4S, lasted another moth before dying. Welded my cracked Leeson, and added cable stops so I can have a front mech. Welded some Echo forks which lasted another month and a half afterwards. Made me a head doctor. Made a mech hanger for my Leeson. Made an axle for my Chris King rear hub. Made two axles for my Echo fixed hub. Made an axle for my Onza fixed hub. Tapped two frames brake mounts out to M6. Countless rim dent removals. Made a set of shims for 25.4mm bars to go in a 31.8mm stem. Made a set of shims for 31.8mm clamp front mech to go on 27.1mm seat tube. ...I'm sure there's more I've forgotten. These are all just fixes for MY stuff, let alone everyone else's. I'm such a basher He's such a God

Because there was that whole film/conspiracy about the number 23, and no-one could market them effectively enough to overcome the peoples' fear.

Wicked video - last sidehop was awesome

That was obviously very impressive, but do you think you could chill out on the slowmo?

My thoughts exactly. Not seen that video in a long time. Excellent repost. Edit: Revolver - pretty confident that's in Barcelona. Bit further than we can normally persuade you to travel.

Before I sacked them off all together, I was a firm believer in the '04 model. The last rim brake I bought was an Echo TR because: The '11s had only just come out and so were almost completely untested/unproven, and the only things I HAD heard were that people had difficulties bleeding them, and they were prone to leaking. (Still don't know how true these accounts are, but they put me way off.) The '05s crack unless you grind a certain triangle off the side of the body, a fair few of the clamps snapped, and I personally hate the shaping/feel of the lever blade. The '04s were long since discontinued, and I wanted to buy brand new. The SL was just far too expensive for my budget. Having got the TR, I was disappointed. Very spongy, a little leaky, and can't take a water bleed. Only downside to the '04s was the TPA, and that was easily fixed with a bolt. Please sign my petition: Bring back the '04 Magura HS33!

Must be a one off. I have one, as does my sister and two of my friends and they're all fine. If you've only just got it, I can't see why they couldn't replace it.

The perfect response

I'm from a purely trials upbringing in the bike world, so am pretty clueless. For a bike that will most often be used for getting around town on (average journey will be about 3.5-5 miles), but that I will also want to take to some trails/single track/general XCing, would you advise a hardtail or rear sprung frame? Is it just preference at this point? My instinct says hardtail, 'cause having the pedals move in relation to the back wheel just seems weird. Doing this on a budget, so are there any major issues with Brand X frames that make them worth steering clear of? Thanks. Edit: Is it possible to run three rings on the front with a 127mm BB? I've "converted" my Leeson, and have a Shimano LX derailleur and basic RPM cranks. I've been fiddling for ages, but can't make it work. I realize the outer ring might be a write-off, but I can't even get the inner two working :/ Is it something I've just not been told, or am I doing it wrong?

A frame fit for their forks - I concur. And with the same finish would be bloody lovely.

Are we THAT un-cool? I knew we were fairly looked down upon by those from "the block", but I didn't know it was that bad...

You might be waiting a while. It'd be far more in their business interest to make an Inspired BMX frame with a geometry that is slightly more tailored to trialsy moves than a regular BMX. Indeed - In my mind, that's the only way it could work.