I with Kris rather a lot, and I'd say that we have a perfectly decent sense of humor. The fact that it's about "13-16" years in advance of yours is not our problem. Basically - if we didn't have the likes of you, the forum would probably be a bit dead. If you didn't have us - the forum would have so little structure, there may aswell not BE one (assuming someone got their arse in gear enough to develop it in the first place). Not many seem to accept the fact that we have to co-exist, or not exist atall. I have a suspicion they're the people who just sit in the background, and only post when they have a good post to make