That's the thing. It's INCREDIBLY simple. That's why I'm on the verge of giving up. It's SO simple it gets boring. 5 years is about enough, I'm thinking. I don't WANT to quit - but I guess it's the same as when people get made a Senior Member on here Once you've done cats, you've done cats. The only variations is to go bigger, level, running or even dropping. Even then, they get boring. It's the same thing over and over, and 'cause the movements in themselves are so easy by this time, it's just not rewarding. I could rant for a lot of pages about this, 'cause it's kinda hitting home at the minute. Really saddens me to give it up, but it's just boring the hell out of me now. As an act of desperation, I tried getting back into a bit of tricking, and combining the two - but again... Once you've done a gainer, you've done a gainer. That's it. @ Conditioning - As far as I'm concerned, that's the biggest load of shit I've ever heard. Train properly, and your conditioning is already done. As far as I know, Belle (the don as far as "defining" parkour, being that he's the son of the guy who "created" it) has never said it's a good idea to go out and do lots of pushups. The closest he's gotten is saying that you should prepare your body for such impacts by building up to it - hence him being at the level he's at after 20 years, and other people are getting close after 5 or 10. Ever read Blane's article on dilution?