I understand what your saying. There would still be people ,myself included that ride low bb compy bikes. I've got a brand new echo mk1 frame in the box,used for a few hours that I couldnt stand the feel of.
Im a tall guy and using a mod stem on limey3. So there is no way I can be comfy on a +55mm and higher.
It looks like I'm going to have to stock pile alot of the 09 controls,pures and the limey3.
What's the reach of the new limey? With that geo I would be guessing a 665 or 670 reach?