sapu Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 http://www.biketrial.eu/what next...hydraulics on a trials bike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Zoot Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Doesn't look like it makes much of a difference to me, what's the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King C Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 ^True but its good to see peopple experimenting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghetto Rider Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Is that rear sus on a mod?? ... lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Where's the pivot?Or is it just relying on the metal flexing like a soft tail frame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egg Fried Rice Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Where's the pivot?Or is it just relying on the metal flexing like a soft tail frame?Its behind the bash/BBJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 i hope it catches on i like the idea of another way of splitting up trial bikers. i can imagine the tf debates on hard+soft sus being prety fun to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up'n'away Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Lol! I have always wandered about having a set up like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 I remember seeing a video aaaages ago (maybe 4 years ago) of some Japanese guy riding the worlds on a full-sus stock frame. It just looked stupid because the sus was just taking all his energy, and it didn't really help with anything. Anyone who's ever tried to back hop a full susser will know what I mean.Besides - is that shock even working? I can't say I saw it move once in the video... Which is explained by the fact there is no pivot . It looks to me like someone has just hacked up some knackered old frames and welded them together again, with a shock in there to provide a talking point. I bet it does nothing (apart from weigh a shed load). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewannnn Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Dont think it made the slightest difference to his riding there waste of time if you ask me, but good to see people are trying new things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 There is a pivot behind the bb. The reason it looks like its doing nothing is bcause it will be set up like that on purpose im guessing so that when your hopeing its not like a pogo stick but when you compress for a sidehop for example it will take affect then. Seems lik a good idea would be nice to ride the bike and see how it feels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Swindlehurst Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endohopper Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 WTF = Weighty trials frame ? Yeah , pretty counterproductive , but I welcome any attempts at innovation . As it happens , I was thinking yesterday about Trials motorbikes going rigid . With a stiff enough chassis and correct tyre pressure it might work ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Thas also the shittest riding i've ever seen from Marco Blau Well trying new things is good i spose.Its behind the bash/BBJKIs it?!Looks like its all welded solid to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*PHIL* Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 One of the things I love about trials is how simple the bikes are/can be. Mine is just single speed rigid as are most.This just seems to be complicating something that works pretty well to begin with.PHIL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 WTF = Weighty trials frame ? Yeah , pretty counterproductive , but I welcome any attempts at innovation . As it happens , I was thinking yesterday about Trials motorbikes going rigid . With a stiff enough chassis and correct tyre pressure it might work ?I think you would most certainly end up cracking the chassis, and you rely on the bounce from the suspension with a motorbike because it is so much heavier. It would make things harder not easier i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Did he get a puncture or did the shock blow? hahaEither way, introducing suspension also means introducing a whole load of new problems for us. Shock, linkage, bushing and bearing breakages.But looks like it rides alright... Would be cool to know the weight of the frame with all the extra stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Is it?!Looks like its all welded solid to me...Hmm, yeah. Maybe on second glance there IS a pivot there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Midget Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 even if it did work, it would take the fun out of it because you could do sidehops etc higher than usual and it wouldnt be fair in competitions as not all riders would have them. thats if it worked of course.my opinion is a no thankyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 even if it did work, it would take the fun out of it because you could do sidehops etc higher than usual and it wouldnt be fair in competitions as not all riders would have them. thats if it worked of course.my opinion is a no thankyou But why would you limit yourself? If it was better then everyone would have them so of course it would be fair. But yeah, I can't see it taking off at all. Would be interesting to see though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Hmm, yeah. Maybe on second glance there IS a pivot there.Yeah theres that small pivot-looking round nub behind the bb shell, but the area around it seems to be all welded Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 even if it did work, it would take the fun out of it because you could do sidehops etc higher than usual and it wouldnt be fair in competitions as not all riders would have them. thats if it worked of course.my opinion is a no thankyou What a goon, do you think its unfair because one guys bike is lighter than the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 i rememebr seeing that vid of that crazy chinese bloke on a full susser too, tom and i can see why you would be put off suspension in trials by it. but imagine if it was all propperly tuned and thought out for trials, maybe then it would work.... like cheap full sussers vs 4000 quid dh bikes i guess. (ISH) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTrialSpaz Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 The vids loading slowly but so far, I haven't seen the sus move once or make the riding look less rigid, and all of the the larger drops in the vid are behind a wall where the camera can't see them. Any money it doesn't work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 If it was a really specialised shock, with loads of compression damping initially, and a lot of rebound, then I could imagine that it could possibly make a bit of difference in sidehops, although whether it would cancel out the extra weight I don't know. But for everything else it'd be rubbish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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