Simpson Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 (edited) Well as you may have read in other thread I'm totally through with magura's and if it wasn't for these new fangled "dengura" brakes i would have gone about welding things onto my frame to get it disk worthy... I must admit I'm not a fan of Deng products but the always seem to offer awsome quantity and is always the non-deng stuff on my bike breaking, so i thought, get me something pricey and shinny and not have to f**k about woith my brake every 10 seconds for the next year or so.When i collect it it was awsome but then the pad didnt fit into the cyclinder propperly....As you can see from the red line the metal looks like it hasnt been cut in enough, this was only on my slave cyclinder, but it refused to accept any form of pad backing tryed everything.... so i decided that darastic action must have been taken....Using an engraving tool and a "pen style" finger drill i set about cuttting away the excess material, and was bloody supprised by how easily it just peeled away i was expecting it to put up a little more resistance, i thought with the new "solid" metal and stuff it would have sliced my, tenna tool to shreads but it didnt at all.... i was pretty sucessfull here are the results.....It fits a rimjam backing into it but i am keen to get a heatsink backing into it so further work may be needed to fully cut away the extra metal, but im still pretty pissed off that people are going to be paying like 135quidds for these... i just dont understand it... so happened to anyone else? should have come in here and asked 1st i guessed maybe contacted the tartybikes boys, but i was so annoyed that power tools were my closest friends.... Edited May 14, 2007 by Simpson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 so now your £135 brake is worth nothing cos of what you did. I suppose with tarty being closed for the while it's hassle, did you try normal plastic backings? deng specifies that you should not use metal backings with his calipers....but yeh. pretty crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Quigley Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Those rimjam backings are supposed to break the 'prongs' off of the cylinders.By drilling it you've voided the warranty. You could have sent it back if it was just a fault in that one cylinder and got a replacement.I think the drilling might make it more prone to the above 'prong' snapping.Sorry dude, but at least you've sorted it for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted May 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 so now your £135 brake is worth nothing cos of what you did. I suppose with tarty being closed for the while it's hassle, did you try normal plastic backings? deng specifies that you should not use metal backings with his calipers....A £135 brake aint worth shit if it doesnt work though... I didnt buy it through "legitimate" pathways anyway, and yea plasic backings dont fit and still dont only the rimjams fit after i butchered it Those rimjam backings are supposed to break the 'prongs' off of the cylinders.By drilling it you've voided the warranty. You could have sent it back if it was just a fault in that one cylinder and got a replacement.Yep the rimjam pads problem is actually MY TOPIC lmao, i doubt i could have sent it back for the above reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 I hope you didn't pay £135 for it if you didn't get it legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted May 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 I hope you didn't pay £135 for it if you didn't get it legit.Nope well i say its not legit, but i guess it kinda is... just selling privatly after bringing them in from china/whereverim still pretty pissed off that people are going to be paying like 135quidds for these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrBENN Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Got my mates echo brake sitting next to me so i saw this topic so i had to make sure the echo pads fitted and hey fitted purfectly so i think its the backings that are used that determin is the pad fits in fine. I think that plastic backings fit in fine and metal backings dont but i thiink you can only use the plastic backings in them.Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted May 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 so i think its the backings that are used that determin is the pad fits in fine. I think that plastic backings fit in fine and metal backings dont but i thiink you can only use the plastic backings in them.Urrr no... its machined wrong.... the plastic backing STILL DONT FIT as i said above in original posti tryed old rimjam backings, maggie backings, powerpad and my rimjams and now only the rimjams do fit in....so i had no choice.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrBENN Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Urrr no... its machined wrong.... the plastic backing STILL DONT FIT as i said above in original posti tryed old rimjam backings, maggie backings, powerpad and my rimjams and now only the rimjams do fit in....so i had no choice....its not becasue ive just checked my mates one with echo pads and they fitted fine so its ither the cylinder has been machined wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balman Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 he tryed plastic backings and they didnt fit try a few all of them only fiting in one side so now only rim jam can be run due to there differnt shapeJack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted May 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 its not becasue ive just checked my mates one with echo pads and they fitted fine so its ither the cylinder has been machined wrong.That what im getting at..... and just becuase your "mates" 1's fine doesnt mean mine is.... *waits for jack to post backing me up* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 If it's not "fully legit" it could just be one from a bad batch or something? Bearing in mind everyone else seems to be able to get pads to fit in, it just sounds more like your's is a bit shade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted May 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 so now only rim jam can be run becuase michaels butchered the cyclinders, and now the rimjams fit due to there differnt shapeJack If it's not "fully legit" it could just be one from a bad batch or something? Bearing in mind everyone else seems to be able to get pads to fit in, it just sounds more like your's is a bit shade?well they are legit someones just brought it across from china for me and a friend.... maybe a funny batch though yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrBENN Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Im sorry but im not tryin to argue with you but there is abviously a problem with the cylinder did you get echo pads with them and if you did did they fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 I would have sent them back to whoever you got them off, obviously something not right with them becuase no one else has had this problem.But then again that's me. If they work now, and last, and you don't want to sell them there's no real problemo. PLus they're lighter . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balman Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 as the picture shows they havent cut out enough matirial for the pad to fit in at all its a few mill off each corner a drill was just about his only option he could drill some more to able plasic backings but its risks as a little to much and there might not be enough metal to hold the pad in it's a problem but it could just be a one off lets just hope some unlucky bugger dosent have the same problem when they have paid full price.jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted May 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 (edited) Im sorry but im not tryin to argue with you but there is abviously a problem with the cylinder did you get echo pads with them and if you did did they fit?ok whatever you dont understand... i would say I'd draw you a picture but there already posted above... other people seem to be getting the ideaNowt wrong with them now!!! lol well i got them at a tad over half price so im not really going to send them back, especially seeing as i only met him once on a ride lmao and not really my type of thing to do... it can be fixed and i did Edited May 14, 2007 by Simpson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balman Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Im sorry but im not tryin to argue with you but there is abviously a problem with the cylinder did you get echo pads with them and if you did did they fit?zoo pads and ovusly not or this hole topic would be pointless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 mine fit rim jams perfect, thing you might have got a bad batch, thats the only explanation.yes u have drilled it, but im sure it be reet. i dont think the denguras snap under rimjams or so i have heard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted May 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 mine fit rim jams perfect, thing you might have got a bad batch, thats the only explanation.yes u have drilled it, but im sure it be reet. i dont think the denguras snap under rimjams or so i have heardI didn't just drill it to get rimjams in i drilled it to get ANY pad to fit.... now only the rimjam does fit.... yea knowing my luck it will!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 well i mean that rimjams have pretty much the same shape as any other pad in the middle, yes they fit around the prongs, but look at any standard pad it looks the same in the middle on the backing.so of course if one doesnt fit none will.but now it does, so dont worry about it, sure it be reet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 i would have sent it back to be honest. but you seem to have done a fairly decent job.good work buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deonn h Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Yeh it should be fine they seem pretty strong.Im using a heatsink metal backing in mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted May 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 i would have sent it back to be honest. but you seem to have done a fairly decent job.good work buddyYea cheers man i was pretty happy with it! it slipped a few times but nothing unexpected happened... couldnt really send it back to anyone so just did the best job with what i had cheers im well proud now!!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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