fizzmahon Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Well i was browsing the forums today and someone mentioned how to true but did not know how to dish, so for all those people who need to know here it comes.Note: It is best to have a wheel in true before dishing.Firstly to find out if it is out of dish. Take off any bolts / quick releases. Take the rim and put it against a wall with the hub on the ground. Push down on the side opposite the wall (so the rim is higher on the wall) and mark it on the wall at its highest point.Flip the wheel over and mark the highest point on the wall once again. If the two marks match your wheel is in dish, if they do not it is not in dish.If it is not in dish, pick the side that was lower on the wall and that is the side you must raise. Tighten every other spoke (the ones which will pull that side of the wheel up) and loosen every other spoke of the opposite side (that way you dont over tighten the spokes)Keep doing this until your wheel is in dish. I find its best to tighten/loosen by a quarter of a turn each revolution.Hope that helps,FiZZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Dish is the whele being centered over the hubie: front for disc brakeIe: rear for the cassett and discUsing the right spokes helps and usally you don't need to check itIf you do need to check it, get a totaly flat surface, place wheel resting on dropout fully flat, measure the outer rim to the deck, should be even all the way aorund the time. Then flip it over and it should be the same there.if not adjust with various differnt turns on the spoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissis Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 if using the right sized spokes this should be very simple providing you are using the right spokes, go round in the pattern and method you use making sure that the rim is the right way round (disc rims), once you have the drive side if rear or disc side spoked go round and turn all the nipples until they sit just covering the end of the thread on the spoke, then use the same method the other side. at the end you should have a decent build that is dished but not tight, then insert wheel onto your bike and true it up until straight, this is one of my methods of wheel building with out any dishing tool or gig, also i think this is a good method as you get your wheel centered to your frame or fork perfect, thats if your a perfectionist like me, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clawz114 Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 are you talking about an egged wheel? Clawz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 NoDiishing a hweel is the rim being moved over to the center of the hub shell be it the rear or front ether way it's sthe same but forn is due to dront disc and rear due to gears/cassetr and a rear disc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave85 Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Dish, the centring of the rim compared to the hub.To be blunt, the "lay wheel on ground, mark position on wall, pray to the gods and invoke beelzebub" method just sounds dodgy, flipping the wheel round in the frame is far quicker and easier. Each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissis Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 are you talking about an egged wheel? Clawzyou cant really get a egg out of a rim unless you have one of them weirdy tripple flagged hubs, but yes it'd work with a egged rim but it would come out straight but still be egged, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Dee-egged my Echo rim!! but it's a shocking rim and has egged again in a differnt place on a kerb move hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissis Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Dee-egged my Echo rim!! but it's a shocking rim and has egged again in a differnt place on a kerb move hahahatry de egging a d321 ceramic, well i did jump, a full double lane road but failed to land smooth enough and put the biggest dink in the rim whilst snapping 4 spokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Mavic only fail if you build them wrong or badly. Gathering from your 1st post on wheel building it died due to your buildingEcho is shit badly maded and overkill, Mavic have been made for 10 odd years they are perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissis Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 i see mr wright, thats why its a hope build from years ago and its laced on to a hope bulb hub with splined spider the shorter one for the c2 brakes that have a mount attached hub and a brace bar to the brake boss one of the first hydro disc brakes out from hope got the front and back years ago, there that old the hubs have faded from hope matalic red to a pinky peach, the back wheel got replaced after that and i got a revolver on ex729 cd which i build my self and have had no probs at all, i still use the front wheel till this day and its running sweet as just changed the cartrige bearings, also its the 20mm threw axle converted for now, i have just received my new front revover 36 hole hubs and im going to make a matching one as the back, but ill have to see what it feels before changing for good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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